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Baie ulei Cum se da jos?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:46 PM

Buna seara.
Vreau sa schimb garnitura la baia de ulei la un e36 318is M44. Problema e ca nu stiu cum se da baia de ulei jos pentru a face aceasta operatiune.
Daca puteti sa-mi spuneti cum pot sa fac asta, sau daca aveti un Diy ceva v-as fi recunoscator. Sau poate stiti cum se da jos baia la un 318i M43?
Va multumesc!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:28 PM

de jur imprejur are niste suruburi. Le desurubezi si pica baia.
Apoi schimbi garnitura si strangi suruburile in cruce incepand cu partea dinspre palier (dupa primul de acolo urmeaza unul la distributie in diagonala...si tot asa...)

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:34 PM

View PostDanS, on 28 November 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:

de jur imprejur are niste suruburi. Le desurubezi si pica baia.
Apoi schimbi garnitura si strangi suruburile in cruce incepand cu partea dinspre palier (dupa primul de acolo urmeaza unul la distributie in diagonala...si tot asa...)

Eu am vazut in TIS si in manualaul Bentley ca trebuie ridicat motorul 5mm si mai trebuie desfacute suruburile de la jug. Faza e ca un prieten a ridicat motorul si mai mult si tot nu a reusit sa dea baia jos, pur si simplu nu vrea sa iasa. Ma gandeam ca o fi o metoda mai accesibila de a da baia jos.
Nu vreau sa par absurd, dar nu stiu ce e aia palier.
Multumesc domnule Dan pentru raspuns.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:57 PM

M-ai terminat cu domnia asta... :lol:/>
Palier este partea din spate..opusa distributiei.
Daca scoti traversa si il ridici de la cutie...iese si baia. Singura parte nasoala este traversa....

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:49 PM

View PostDanS, on 28 November 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

M-ai terminat cu domnia asta... :lol:/>
Palier este partea din spate..opusa distributiei.
Daca scoti traversa si il ridici de la cutie...iese si baia. Singura parte nasoala este traversa....

Maine ma duc la prietenul asta sa vad care-i treaba. Eu nu am vazut ce a facut el acolo dar a zis ca pur si simplu nu vrea sa iasa. Cred ca trebuie desfacuta traversa din cele 4 suruburi. Daca-i dau de capat o sa incerc sa schimb si la mine pentru ca pierde destul de mult.
Multumesc inca odata de raspunsuri.
Daca mai stie cineva si alte metode sau aveti un Diy, va rog sa postati aici.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:11 PM

1. Raise the car and place on stands. REMEMBER SAFETY FIRST!
2. You would need a floor jack so, stop being cheap and buy a good one. I paid $90.00 for mine.
3. Remove the engine mount nuts.
4. unlatch the fan shroud from top and bottom. No need to remove it. It has to move up when you raise the engine.
5. Drain oil.
6. Be very careful and place a piece of wood on top of the jack and place top of jack right where the tranny meets the engine ON THE TRANNY. You will have to remove the exhaust bracket attached to the tranny.
7. Gently raise the jack to raise the engine and watch the engine to make sure nothing is being stretch ( hoses or wires).
8. Raise the engine as high as possible. Don't worry if it slips off the engine mounts, it will slide back when you lower the jack or you can easily guide it back in. Do not use fingers.
9. After you raise the engine. start to remove all the nuts holding the oil pan to the engine. There are also two bolts on the transmission you'll have to remove. Towards the rear of the pan you will have different size bolts (note where you remove them from).
10. The transmission require special hex socket. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU USE THE RIGHT TOOLS. WRONG TOOLS CAN CAUSE A BOLT TO STRIP OR A DAMAGED HEAD AND THEN YOU WILL INCREASE YOUR PROBLEMS.
11. After you remove all nuts, gently pry the oil pan from the engine. Don't force it, if it seems stuck, check to make sure you have removed ALL nuts.
12. Lower the pan as far as it will go. You will not be able to completey remove it.
13. Remove the old gasket by either cutting it or sliding it under the suction pipe leading into the pan.
14. Clean all areas where the gasket will seat with a rag or scraper if needed. Avoid pieces from entering the pan.
15. Now for the delicate part. YOU WILL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND SLIDE THE NEW GASKET UNDER THE SUCTION PIPE LEADING INTO THE PAN. I DID THIS FROM THE PASSENGER SIDE OF THE ENGINE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REPLACE THE GASKET WITHOUT REMOVING THE FRAME UNDER THE PAN OR PAYING TUFFY $500.00 OR THE STEALER $900.00 TO DO IT.
16. SO THE MAIN THING TO DO IS SLIDING THE NEW GASKET UNDER THE SUCTION PIPE (NOT REAL NAME) IN THE OIL PAN WITHOUT BREAKING OR DAMAGING IT.

17. Replace nuts and torgue. Leave engine gravel cover for one week while you cheCk for daily leaks

18. DON'T FORGET TO ADD NEW OIL.

PRETEND YOU PLACE ONE OF YOUR FEET INTO A BUCKET AND YOU HAVE TO PLACE THE COVER ON THE BUCKET BY SLIDING THE COVER (GASKET)OVER UNDER YOUR FOOT (SUCTION PIPE LEADING INTO THE OIL PAN) IN ORDER TO PLACE IT ON THE BUCKET (OIL PAN) BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE YOUR FEET OUT OF THE BUCKET.

IT TOOK ME ABOUT 3 HOURS TO DO THIS JOB.

ALWAYS FOLLOW SAFETY.
USE THE RIGHT TOOLS AND WORK CLEAN AND ORGANIZE.

Daca nu intelegi ceva, imi spui...

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:58 PM

Multumesc foarte mult. In mare parte inteleg ce zice mai sus, dar nu chiar tot.Oricum, pana o sa gasesc un mecanic competent la noi in "comuna" o las asa.
Am fost la prietenul asta azi sa dam baia pentru el jos de pe alta masina. M-am chinui o ora cu toate ca motorul era ridicat foarte sus si toate suruburile la baie date jos inca de sambata.
A trebuit sa mai desfac: suport bucse bascula, bielete antiruliu de jos de pe bascula, suruburile de la suportul motorului( jug cred ca-i zice)si a trebuit sa desfac si coloana de directie de pe caseta de directie. Dupa ce am desfacut coloana de directie, jugul s-a dus in jos si am reusit sa scot baia. Era sa o las balta, dar in ultimul moment a iesit. Nu stiu cine a gandit chestia asta, dar sigur era beat sau tras pe nas.
Oricum, multumesc mult inca odata foarte mult pentru ajutor.

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